In 5 years FX will be the main series!

Love how no one responded to the thread after Mach's stupid comment. I guess people have eyes and memories. The sport has never looked better and Im sure most people think it.

nice if more sponsors got involved in a big way who's hearing me!

Ya know what I would honestly like to see.... a 40+ year old category on current bikes, not historics.
A lot of the older fans would still like to see some of their past heroes going at it.... Wally, Slighty, Magoo, Beattie.....
Hell in 5 years, I'll be eligible.
Make it Superstock rules, coz none of us would want to have to shell out $150K a year to go racing for a bit of fun.

Oh, and Kev Curtain and Gilesy would alredy be eligible.... I bet ya Gilesy would deny it though.. hahahahaha (If he aint 40 yet, he certainly is not far away. He was my instructor at the Wayne Gardner Masterclass in about 1993)

The greatest source of angst at the moment is tyres. This has been brought about by a lack of involvement and approval from mainstream competitors. Not to mention the lack of testing for pre-approval. The first promoter to get this right will walk away with the largest slice of the pie. ASBK has reverted back to the Ntec which, due to the prohibitive cost and failures at the Island was the main reason for the control tyre in the first place. Support categories will still use the problematic US made tyres. FX will abandon the US made treaded tyre in the premier class for the French Ntec. ASBK has abandoned this tyre in its premier class due to complaints....and the loveliness goes on. Competition will always yeild the greatest results. Open up the tyre supply to other companies and competition will flourish yet again producing both better tyres and prices. Jeremy Crowe and his BMW team left todays meeting early muttering they have had enough. I made the decision to withdraw from the FX category as I felt the delaminating tyres were unsafe. We will not race in a control tyre category again untill this mess is sorted.
There is room for two series in this country.....but emphasis needs to shift to enticing more people to enter racing rather than exploiting the ones that are currently there.
FX offers a level of simplicity that is very appealing to most and is appreciated by those at the core of racing.
ASBK offers a sense of superiority due to the level of competition. Obviously a rider shift from ASBK to FX will see this thinnly veiled sense of superiority eroded. They are already down on numbers to FX.
I currently support numerous riders and sponsor both ST George and FX.
I have raced and ran race teams. I love this sport.......so why do I and others feel like walking away? When passionate people become despondant........"where will we be in five years" becomes a daunting question.

If the asbk had the full focus of a company that totally devoted itself to the series it would be in great shape in five years.
Konsky has to many irons in to many fires and simply hiring a GM to run it for him because he is over committed elsewhere is not the answer.

NevBartos wrote:

Love how no one responded to the thread after Mach's stupid comment. I guess people have eyes and memories. The sport has never looked better and Im sure most people think it.

yess Krusty bring some of the old names back to the sport.... atleast most people have heard of those guys & can relate more most of the riders today are un knowns.. no media profile wouldnt be able to pick who is who with there helemets off

@ dirtracer55 -- the internet is a wonderful thing - i'm sure you weren't born yesterday, but yeah, the riders of today have never been easier to get info on dude! google's a mad tool and so are news websites!

Whilst I do not disagree with you JB33, the people searching for information on the net are those that are already interested in the sport. Main stream media is where its at. Unless people start hearing about how good you and your competitors are in the wider press, they will never know to search for you.

I guess this is where the V8Supercar exposure could be helpful. But at what expense?

spot on Mach!!

yeah mate, it could be for sure. I am in support of selected rounds of the championship but i think it is very important for us to stand on our two feet as a sport still, as we will always be second fiddle to the V8's.

TV can play an important role with personality building. The BSB coverage does a fantastic job of it i think. makes the viewing so much more interesting i think. like how much better is watching racing , even when you are there live when you actually barrack for someone cause you like there personality and stuff, not just because, yeah there on a ducati or a kawasaki or a moped or whatever you barrack for.

All it takes is for a little creativity and people with the driving force to see out what they envisage (that comment is not directed at any body or org by the way)


**KRUSTY - yeah i think a 40+ category would be cool. all you have to do is look at the current demographic of race watchers. They'd all agree with you! i'd like to see more ppl my age and younger going to the racing - the demographic from say 18-30.

maybe some more chicks too. lol!

Sausage fests aint cool. maybe for Krusty but not for me!!

"Where will it be in 5yrs?" Implies that someone has a 5yr plan????

Do they? Any of them??? The way we see stuff changing every year I certainly wonder......

jordyburgess33 wrote:

yeah mate, it could be for sure. I am in support of selected rounds of the championship but i think it is very important for us to stand on our two feet as a sport still, as we will always be second fiddle to the V8's.



TV can play an important role with personality building. The BSB coverage does a fantastic job of it i think. makes the viewing so much more interesting i think. like how much better is watching racing , even when you are there live when you actually barrack for someone cause you like there personality and stuff, not just because, yeah there on a ducati or a kawasaki or a moped or whatever you barrack for.



All it takes is for a little creativity and people with the driving force to see out what they envisage (that comment is not directed at any body or org by the way)





**KRUSTY - yeah i think a 40+ category would be cool. all you have to do is look at the current demographic of race watchers. They'd all agree with you! i'd like to see more ppl my age and younger going to the racing - the demographic from say 18-30.



maybe some more chicks too. lol!



Sausage fests aint cool. maybe for Krusty but not for me!!

There was a comment above suggesting the Promotor can not successfully promote more than one event at a time, this comment is far from true. Appointing someone to manage ASBK exclusively is a good step forward and I hope this will assist in creating the right vision for the future.

My suggestion that perhaps FX could be the main Championship in 5 years is based around direction. FX currently have a clear direction, after all they are still evolving. ASBK need a direction and purpose and they need to broadcast it to one and all. I reckon sooner rather than later, ASBK will go down the Stock path, but FX are already there, so the change needs to be marketed very well.

FX's current downfall is that the Factory effort goes unchallenged mostly, however as we have seen, serious privateer efforts can beat them as the rules encourage this. Yet another reason why the next best teams in ASBK may head to FX.

Hehehehe Jordy, never fail to make me chuckle.....

The reason why I suggested that we have an old farts race, is because I cant be assed training to try to be as fit as you guys, but I still feel like I can contribute something to the sport....

(Yeah I am actually being a little serious for a second here)

As for rider profiles, etc.... It is hard to promote someone when they get no coverage, the only way to obtain good publicity of a rider is to thrust them in the public eye..... How can this be achieved?

The easiest way, is to have a personality that the public gels with, whether it be a joker, bad boy etc etc.

How will the public see this? It takes coverage through the media. Print media cannot reveal ones personality through words, so it has to be on television.

From what i have seen, the telly does not cover a riders personality, only the physical side of the actual races.

How do we manage this then? Well we need more air time, and air time costs money.

At the risk of getting shot down by everyone here, one of the things I have noticed lately, is that none of the top racers in the country have a personality to stand out from the rest..... everyone is the ultra-professional, without the personal touch that the public would adhere to (or hate).

Our very own Mr Jordy 'I love sausage' Burgess has done the best job out of the lot, if you ask me...

As for the ASBK v FX saga..... I believe that Yarrive listens more to what the riders want, hence he will have some more support.. whereas Terry is more along the line of 'Do what I want, or piss off'..... This was the dilemma that I had with him at Wakefield in 04.

Jordy... while I agree with you that the series needs to stand on it's own two feet, I think that teaming with the V8's for a couple of years will only be a benefit...... there are so many out-of-industry sponsors in that series, that can prove to be a major bonus for bikes in the future.

Mach24.... I couldn't agree with you more.

Jordy and Al...... speaking of sausage fests..... didnt I see the two of you on meatspin.com ? hahahahahahaha

Krustman, the most prominent racer in OZ at the mo is Wayne Maxwell. His outburst has made him ever so slightly news worthy. I really believe his infamy will take him OS next year.

The issue I have with V8 rounds is that it takes away from the real ASBK. Whilst we build the business, it CAN NOT be at the expense of the support classes.

2+4 should be a stand alone series!

Speaking of races for the older guys, I have heard they are considering running a Vets class like they do at the MX Nationals (the official Australian title was run at the Coolum season finale).

In fact, Konsky finished second in the Australian Vets Motocross Championship (35 to Under 40s class) this year!

Do you guys think a class like that would attract many entries? We've all seen how popular the Historics are with old guys on old bikes, so how would a Vets class go with old guys on NEW bikes?

I'd run it...... gotta keep it under 10 laps though..... otherwise RaceSafe would be very busy... hehehehe

Very popular AG we have 9 teams out of 40 in the 6 hour this year that are Vet riders over 40. Murray Clark, Rene Bongers i think , Phil Hall, Brett Clarke , Shawn Giles, ME , Alister Maxwell, Steve Tozer, John Chiodo, Craggill ??, few more...
Its a great concept and one that could take off in ASBK as a support class for sure.

I might even make a comeback in about nine years in the Vets lol.

I've also heard a calendar is in its final stages of planning. Funnily enough, it's about a week or so after the V8 one was confirmed.

More two-plus-fours in 2011 I'm guessing, and I reckon that's a good thing.

Vet racing is a niche concept if you have BIG names.

I doubt most of those names will be available regularly, if at all.

And to be honest I would prefer to see Mladin and Bayliss in the Championship proper than in some kind of freak show on the side!

Heard ASBK still can't confirm the creek though !! Hoping that they can as NSW needs quality racing back .

Im a fan of 2 + 4 concept but ASBK need at least 6 stand alone rounds and maybe 3 with the V8's. That's a decent Championship. As long as its over early Nov so the season doesn't drag out too long.

Speaking of the Creek, was there a crowd at all last weekend for the AFXC? I didn't make it out after coming home from Launceston Super X.

Racegod wrote:

Heard ASBK still can't confirm the creek though !! Hoping that they can as NSW needs quality racing back .Im a fan of 2 + 4 concept but ASBK need at least 6 stand alone rounds and maybe 3 with the V8's. That's a decent Championship. As long as its over early Nov so the season doesn't drag out too long.