450 rite here. People are syaing 450's weigh too much but when you get used to them you dont even notice the difference in weight and not to mention the power delivery on them is excellent. For free riding a 450 would be much better. If a 250 is too much then go ride a 250f flat out and you will be alrite LOL

Im riding a 350 next week so ill probs change my mind lol

Im a pretty big guy in the MX circles and I used to think that the older 426-450s had too much power and were way too heavy, but I love my 2010 CRF450, its the best bike I've riden, its got good power straight off the bottom and smooth all the way through and the weight doesn't feel much heavier then a 250F.

I still haven't riden the 350 but it'ld want to be impressive for me to think its the way of the future, then having said that I think of the holeshot at the Glen Helen GP with Carioli and Alessi side by side and about 3-4 bike lengths in front of the 450s, so I voted give me one to ride!!!!

Im Hanging to ride the 350,

I got to ride a 2010 CRF 250 back to back with my CRF 450 09, Was quicker well felt quicker through corners on the 250, the smaller bike was a lot easier to tip into and hold speed through corners, and coming off the 450 i felt i could hold the throttle on earlier and longer on the 250F

Downside to the 250 was the lack of bottom end power, same with all 250s, one wrong gear selection and you lose all your momentum and speed.

Start of this year i really wanted to get a 250F again, after riding the 450 now for 18 months and getting used to it i dont think i could go back, still a long way from using all the power of the 450.

Hopefully this 350 is the right mix and people buy a shit load of them so theJap manufactures head down the same path, Could see a orange bike in my future.

Ill buy AGs 2011 of him at the end of next year

Here's MotoOnline's Launch Test of the complete range guys, giving our opinion of the 250-350-450 battle!

http://www.motoonline.com.au/2010/06/18/launch-test-2011-ktm-250-350-and-450-sx-f/

In the end time will tell but,I am going with 450 to stay and 350 to be a little flash in the pan. KTM tried this 14-15 years ago with the 360 2 stroke yes Shayne King won a world tittle yes they where the bike that handled like a 250 but accelerated more like a 500 & where great bikes even when they changed the name to 380. Before the yamaha YZ400F came out Jackie Martins won the 1st 4 stroke world championship in 30 somthing years on a 610 husky and they are now extinct.

I think for the bike to b considered world changing KTM need to beat the BIG FOUR in both sx & mx in the US and europe. And the BIG FOUR to feel threated by the new model. Maybe with EFI they will be able to smooth the current 450's out even more.

At the end of the day it is going to be great for us fans to watch.

Yeah that's right ash, it'll be the Japanese manufacturers that ultimately dictate whether the 350 will become 'mainstream'. For now though, I'm on the bandwagon haha.

Agree with you Ashman, needs to prove itself in supercross especially in the US. Maybe even things up a litle as only the top guys can really hold a 450 wide open.

Speaking of the 350, what's up with Alessi??? Is it him not performing up to scratch, or are the American tracks more of a disadvantage for a 350 than in Europe (Cairoli) or Australia (Simmonds)? Geez he dropped back fast last weekend at Budds Creek!

Yeh what is with alessi he was on it at the glen helen gp. As good as any other 350 (Carioli) who he couldnt get near at the pre GP races in europe. As much as I hate to say it I maybe the US mx series is just faster.Or maybe Alessi was able to share a setup with Carioli and now later in the season he is losing direction with his setup. Mathes at pulpmx has been commenting on how bad Alessi's bike is handling. Having said that Carioli & Nagl both had off weekends in Germany.

Yeah, plus we can't forget that Alessi won the second moto at Hangtown's season opener against the AMA's best right before the Glen Helen GP.

I wish Cairoli would go over to America, he would do good outdoors I reckon. But it looks like we'll have to settle to see how Marvin Musquin will go in the Lites first and then maybe in the coming years he will step up to the 350 in the Open class.

Or that rumour of James Stewart joining KTM will come true - the one that the commentator started during the US GP telecast!

At the speed the guys in the AMA ride at I think honestly that having a 350 is a disadvantage because those guys hold there modded 450 engines flat out and we all know how powerful a stock 450 is. The 350 maybe as nimble as a 250 but the guys at AMA throw the bikes around like they way nothing and quoting alessi he said" but the end of the moto when they are tired, im still able to push" come on seriously reed, short etc get paid to train and ride so I think there fitness is fine to last a whole moto on the big 450.

Would not suprise me to see alessi back on a 450 by the end of the mx season if not the start of sx

Who can forget the comedy at the end of the Hangtown event. With him parking the bike on the podium, only to b informed he didn win & then to tell everyone how he smoked them and wasnt even brekaing a sweat. Messy with peoples head or being a wanker everyone has their opinion.

Carioli would be a top 5 maybe 3 guy in the US he is fast as any of them. The MX GP tracks seem to be that little bit more technical as in akward ruts and off camber turns. But it seems to be that Europe is becoming the proving ground before more internationals move to the USA. There hasn't been much traffic the other way for alot of years. I for 1 would have love to see RC race the GP's for 1 year before he retired. It would have been the ultimate to see him and everts race for a full season with only personal hounors. Not the MXoN where each time they meet, they claimed team tactics prevented them from battling.

So do you guys think the 350 will be more of an advantage (or less of a disadvantage whatever way you look at it) on Supercross where the outright horsepower isn't so critical? Simmonds will be great to watch in Super X this year, plus Alessi if he actually comes as planned! I think Tye might have him lol.

Its hard to say still. I think the 350 still needs time to prove itself. At the moment we have only seen it in the hands of a few very fast riders who would be competive on just about anybike. Having said that i cant wait to watch & with a few more months development I'm sure Tye will be looking to put that thing on the podium.

I just want to know how it will go being used for Enduro?